but while they have tobacco products in the cafe, while they have an active permit, i don't think -- i'm not able to have any discussion with them. they need to first comply with the law, and then come and propose to the department, and the department will be open to listen, to meet with them. thank you. >> president hwang: thank you. >> commissioners, the matter is submitted. >> president hwang: go ahead. >> commissioner lazarus: mr. burton, i guess, i am confused about what nile cafe claims to be. is it a cafe? i mean you can't be a cafe and a tobacco shop, as i understand it. so what is it? >> well, in terms of what it does, it does -- >> commissioner lazarus: it operates under a license as something. >> right. it operates under a license as a restaurant, is the main license. but it also has a tobacco license to sell the product.